Insurgents no scoped weapons. Why? Options

[The Ghost]

And how much duct tape is used in the manufacture of the Tabuk?

[american_civilia...]

And how much duct tape is used in the manufacture of the Tabuk?

just enough

i think that's a torch duct taped to the front, the wikipedia photo isn't that great it came from this site anyway:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=82581

I'm not suggesting it be put in the game, it would be pretty overpowered (similar to the m14). I was just highlighting the fact that scopes for ak47's are readily available in Iraq and they know how to attach them. The thread starter didn't deserve all the anger directed at him/her.

It would be impossible to add every rifle that insurgents use and keep the game balanced or fun (unless they added some of the support USMC can use) so what the insurgency team have done is great so far.


and rpg-7s shouldn't have scopes.

[Shlepple]

has anyone in this thread heard of asymmetrical balance

namely the teams not being the same
so really no scopes on insurgent weapons apart from sniper rifles please

[byzantine90]

Insurgents are idiots... as if they would even have the knowledge for properly mounting a scope beyond just screwing it on... but don't worry because the devs would give them laser accuracy... And that is why NO... because it's already unrealistic now how accurate their guns are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aukai_Collins read that book that this guy wrote, i have and believe me, insurgents and unconventional fighters ARE NOT stupid. the common idiot ones you are referring to are the ones that pick up a weapon form a dead body or get one 'hoping to make a difference', the ones operating in cells are pretty smart. (note: theres a bit of sympathetic propaganda in the book, but overlook that and see how advanced these cells are). although i do think the aks in this mod are too accurate the myth about the ak being inaccurate is a load of crap. the reason it can be inaccurate is if you are using a 7.62 varient (slower bullet velocity than 5.45 or 5.56), auto, or burst fire. use it in single shot, with every shot 1-1.5 seconds apart and you'll be surprised with hitting a target in the torso. max range i'd use an ak at is at around 250m with iron sights (even with optics i wouldnt bother pushing past 250m)

[C8828451]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aukai_Collins The myth about the ak being inaccurate is a load of crap. the reason it can be inaccurate is if you are using a 7.62 varient (slower bullet velocity than 5.45 or 5.56), auto, or burst fire. use it in single shot, with every shot 1-1.5 seconds apart and you'll be surprised with hitting a target in the torso. max range i'd use an ak at is at around 250m with iron sights (even with optics i wouldnt bother pushing past 250m)

Yup. The AK overall is not nearly as bad as a lot of kids think. Sure, you aren't going to use one in a target shooting competition, but people seem to think that you can't even reliably get the shot on the paper at anything more than 25 yards.

I don't know if I would want the accuracy of the AK dropped in INS though. I would much rather have the delay between bursts on the M16 be reduced and/or add an aimpoint to them (maybe even the 1.5x aimpoints) so that people who want to snipe but don't get the M14 won't be so tempted to take up the Sgt slots thus depriving the Marines of their best CQB punch. For that matter, maybe even removing the aimpoint from the M4 and only offering the foregrip version with its nicely reduced recoil and leave the M16 for the more precise but not quite sniping abilities.

[Hoodie]

you guys have to realize that insurgents can choose from more weapons than the marines...

watch this ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HujjuvPiUj4

also those guns are not made bad they are hand made !

[-Dutch-]

I've shot my AK in multiple 3-gun comps through IPSC.

A well-built AK, worked on by a good gunsmith.. will shoot better than the owner, just like most modern firearms. I have shot mine out to 400 meters regularly, with good accuracy(6 inch wide pepper poppers).

Very underestimated, the AK is.

[Revenga]

A well-built AK, worked on by a good gunsmith.. will shoot better than the owner, just like most modern firearms. I have shot mine out to 400 meters regularly, with good accuracy(6 inch wide pepper poppers).

Very underestimated, the AK is.

Key words there, although you are right.

[Hunt3r.j2]

The USMC need optics on all weapons. No exceptions. We need the INS to have a disadvantage there otherwise it's just retarded and makes INS CS-like.

[bravo company]

The USMC need optics on all weapons. No exceptions. We need the INS to have a disadvantage there otherwise it's just retarded and makes INS CS-like.

you're point is void because CS:S also has asymmetrical balance

[The Ghost]

Like how?

[Dukeleto]

Like how?

different objectives for each side, I guess, but that's about it!

[Revenga]

Like how?

The same way INS does it: Slightly different weapons for each side.

[Vilkacis]

you're point is void because CS:S also has asymmetrical balance

you're point is void because NO ONE should be so intimately involved with CS:S to know how it is balanced!! epic ins fail!

I believe his point in saying "CS like" is akin to saying arcade-like or unrealistic... that it would be realistic that marines have an overwhelming advantage somewhere along the line... for example body armor, better weapons, boots wet with haji blood, etc.

[-Dutch-]

It makes me twitch to see people trying to act like they're smarter than someone else, yet in the same hand following along with their own horrid grammatical errors. It's like the definition of e-Irony.